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About the wiki
This wiki is a wonderful idea. Thanks for making it possible! It's about time we start letting the general computing public know about the Linux gaming community. I hope I can contribute some worth-wile information to the site.
--Judland 13:48, 11 Jul 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
I can only agree with Judland, this wiki is a great idea. Why hasn't anybody thought of this before? ;)
--Hoehrer 13:57, 11 Jul 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
In order to maintain momentum of the Wiki and encourage more helpful input into it, would there be any interest in a monthly newsletter? I see it as something that lists the recent additions to the Wiki (How Tos, reviews, new contributors, etc.) and just an overall "how we're doing" sort of thing.
With summer coming to an end, I feel that I could contribute a few hours a month at putting something together, if it was an idea we all thought would be beneficial.
--Judland 09:30, 23 Jul 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Sound like a good idea.. right now u can get renent changes as a rss feed though..
--RancidLM 16:51, 14 Aug 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Im looking for admins iv already made Hoehrer one.. im looking for people with wiki experance, has contributed, and is registered.. as well as a gamer who isn't a n0ob.. any takes?
--RancidLM 01:36, 19 Aug 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
List of Admins
see also Special:Listadmins
Post your logo proposals here.
Just an idea I had... based on the Tetris sort of puzzle blocks.
Got an SVG version if interested. --Judland
Ohhh, i like that tetris-like logo :)
But i would like to make a suggestion. Make it a 'tiny' bit smaller, and add more tetris like shapes to it. IMHO it doesn't matter if the font itself doesn't take up the whole logo. Soemthing like this
##O L#O G#O GXO or O L# O G##O GX#O
wow , nice.. but can we some how incorperate the drunken penguin ... dunno just a thought :)
--RancidLM 08:09, 7 Sep 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Glad you liked the initial idea. You (we) can develop in any way desired. I did a bit of a re-work as Hoehrer suggested. Reload the page to get an update to the image.
That's very cool! I think it would look more 'tetrisy' if you made each shape a single colour though. --Irrevenant 05:26, 3 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Is it possible (traffic- and storage-wise) to enable image-uploads? At least for the admins. Not biggy if not, but it would help for some things. --Hoehrer 04:57, 22 Aug 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
hmm i think im gonna leave it turned off.. i wanna keep it more text based for now.. its more of a host thing.. i wanna keep the bandwitdh low more then any thing.. but good ill keep it on mind :) --RancidLM 20:44, 24 Aug 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Ok, as i said, it's no big problem. I can live with it ;) --Hoehrer 02:46, 25 Aug 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Hotlinking & Other host site
Also, what do you think about linking images? I hotlinked a few from the developer websites and I'm thinking that's probably not the best solution. I know you were linking from happypuppy.com, but I'm not aware of anything that seems to indicate that is any better. I notice that RancidLM doesn't want to host them here, either. What do you think about this issue? --RJNFC
After thinking about this a while i came to the conclusion that maybe a new hsot-location would be the best solution (sourceforge/berlios/etc...). We then would have a bit more space and bandwidth and can setup the wiki with alot more features (mostly bandwidth and space dependant). Until then (hosting of images) hotlinking is the way to go. What do you think? --Hoehrer 02:26, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
I think that sounds about right. Hotlinking should be good until we come up with another solution. I might start asking sites for permission to hotlink their images. --RJNFC
hosting costs for local image storage?
RancidLM, do you have any figures on what it might cost to host images locally? We will need some sort of storage solution eventually, as we cannot hotlink images forever without someone getting pissed. I am looking into possible storage as well, but I'd like to know what it would add to your costs to do that. I would be in favor of increasing your capacity to host images locally, if possible. I would certainly be willing to help with the costs if it's not too steep. We should all be paying some of your hosting fees anyways. --RJNFC 11:14, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
Come to think about it, for about $50 initially and about $20 per month, I could get us unlimited storage and bandwidth on a server of mine. I just need to buy it a wireless card ($50) and offset hosting costs a bit (about $20 per month). I would be willing to pay for some of those costs, but we should think about setting up a donations area for both the Wiki hosting costs and any image hosting costs that we may or may not decide to setup. --RJNFC 11:22, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
What is wrong with just using a free (as in beer and as in speech) service such as sourceforge or berlios? Has anyone here some experience with one of those? At least it doesn't sound hard to register a project there. --Hoehrer 10:04, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Nothing wrong with that - could save us some hassle. We should look into it. --RJNFC 14:37, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
re:hosting costs for local image storage?
its more of a bandwidth issue.. if we ever got a big rush... /. or something i could never handle it.. now if some one wants to give me free (free'er) hosting with unlimited bandwidth for this linux site.. well. jeez where do i sign?
--RancidLM 21:56, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
It's a possibility. I am in a situation to host a server for a very low cost. Depending on what your hardware and software needs are, I might be able to host your site in the future, for a lower cost and with infinite bandwidth. We can discuss it.
--RJNFC 10:24, 7 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
Image Hosting Solution
I think I have solved our image hosting woes. I totally forgot about the space my college account grants me. I have setup a place there to host the images. I'll be going through and moving our screenshots and such to there, using standard image names and the new Screenshot template. I'll keep a copy on my home machine as a backup and if we use the Screenshot template we can instantly re-locate the screenshots if that space ever gets removed. I doubt that I'll lose that space for years, though. They never delete the accounts. So, I would say we can take down all of the pleas for hosting space from our front page and such :)
--RJNFC 13:03, 3 Nov 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
its a interesting solution altho i would like to host them localy at some point.. i just want to let you know that if your college contacts me due to bandwidth issues.. This wiki holds no responsibility's for your actions... that bieng said.. nice screen shots :)
You seem to be the keeper of the categories around here :) One thing I want to do is have a category that is sort of a catch-all for the games. I want to be able to eventually redirect Game List to a category with the same structure. That way, we can add a new game and have it go directly there.
I propose that we change the current category structure to the following:
- Put the contents of the "Games" category into a "Genres" category to hold the game genres like "Action" and "Adventures"
- Put the contents of the "Open Source" category into the "License" category for game licenses such as GPL, LGPL, etc
- Use the "Games" category for game TYPES such as "Open Source" and "Commercial" and "Emulated" (like how Game List is setup)
- Have each game page list a type (see above item), a license, and a genre
- The last three points are pretty much summed up by using the 'License' categories. When something is e.g.
- ... marked with the 'GPL' category it is marked with 'Open Source' (and 'License' + 'Software' as well of course).
- Also i do not think that the "Open Source" "Commercial" and "Emulated" are a "games-only" thing since we can list other programs as well in the wiki (just a few examples: emulators, virtual machines, compilers, etc...)
So basically the TYPES are the same as the Licenses (in a way).
But we could re-name the "Games" category to something like "Availability", "(Program) character" or "Program type" (with opensource, commercial, emulated inside) and use it in parallel to the "License" one.
(And leave the similar subcategories below the license categories.)--Hoehrer 09:58, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
- The last three points are pretty much summed up by using the 'License' categories. When something is e.g.
The big payoff I was shooting for would be to be able to go into the Games Category and inside it would be SubCategories like "Commercial" "Open Source" and "Emulated" and each of those would only contain games. So, going to "Games" and "Commercial" would give you all commercial games, in one list. Going to "Games" and "Genres" would give you genres, and let you sort games by genre. Right now, you have it nicely split up into Licenses and such, but it's very fragmented. That's good, if you want to know what games use a specific license, but not good if you are looking for a list of games. Basically, I want to replace Game List eventually, so that I don't have to go and add every game we find. I want to be able to just have somebody make a game page with the proper type, license, and genre listed and then they could click on those categories to, for example, see ALL arcade games or ALL open source games or ALL GPL2 games. --RJNFC 13:25, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
I know exactly what you are aiming for. What i aimed for is something like this:
- Open Source Licenses
- Commercial Licenses
- Commercial license 1
- Commercial license 2
- Open Source Licenses
- Program types ("Games" is a bit too spezific i think)
- Commercial (You have to pay)
- Freeware (...but no Sources available. e.g.: Shareware, Public common)
- Open Source (Sources available)
- Emulated (any emulated program)
So you still get your seperation, but a bit more 'universal' useable. --Hoehrer 10:41, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Hoehrer- I went ahead and re-read your post a couple times and I see what you are saying. I think what I'm going to do is create subcategories "Open Source Games", "Commercial Games" and "Emulated Games" and file the games as I stated, using those as the "type". That way we keep the existing structure in place and still have a more organized game collection. --RJNFC 13:42, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
Ah, ok :) but see the "Open Source Licenses" to see what i meant with this classification. --Hoehrer 10:41, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
What I said, and what you you were aiming for, is what I just did. Basically it's exactly how you layed it out above. I used "Commercial" in place of "Commercial Licenses" because I don't think we'll need to list every commercial license, and I also don't think that we'll need to use the category "Commercial" for any other purpose (we can currently put any program in it, game or not). The only other difference from what you said is that I used game-specific categories like I said above. That way we can keep groups of games seperate from other programs, and still list everything by license. The licenses are independent of the "Games" category. I think its good how it is now. I vote we delete the "Open Source" category until such time that we might need it again for something else, because it's not being used. Let me know what you think about the way it looks now, and about deleting "Open Source" --RJNFC 14:15, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
Yeah, i fully agree, and i really like how it is arranged now. So we just remove (or ignore) the "Open Source" category and that's it. :D --Hoehrer 11:15, 6 Oct 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Excellent. I deleted "Open Source" (as much as you CAN delete anything on a wiki lol) and I'll be spending most of my time on the individual game pages then :) Hopefully I can find us some image hosting space --RJNFC 14:34, 6 Oct 2005 (Eastern Standard Time)
just upgraded the site.. if any one finds any thing out of order please let me know :) also updated to the logo a little..i figure if the site software would be upgraded.. why not update the gamer penguin
--RancidLM 21:46, 12 October 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Cool, it's good to see that the software behind the wiki is being updated. Thanks again for providing this place to us. :) --Hoehrer 23:32, 12 October 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)
just did some backend update.. sorry for the site downtime people
post test from small update
I think we should define a fixed SPAM policy. I think the current way of blocking a spaming IP roughly 3-6 months is a pretty good thing, isn't it? --Hoehrer 06:11, 21 November 2005 (Pacific Standard Time)
Is there a way to block whole IP-ranges like 222.* or 222.1* somehow? --Hoehrer 02:13, 13 December 2005 (Pacific Standard Time)
Moved to this page Project_talk:Policy
New quote style
What do you all think of the new style i used in the Template:Quote? I basically just adapted the style used in the Linux Gaming News section. Does it need a different background (IMHO yes is does) and do you have other suggestions/critics? --Hoehrer 03:27, 10 March 2006 (Pacific Standard Time)
Additions to the site?
so just woundering what what you all like to see added to the site? forums?.. any other type of content? --RancidLM 13:14, 23 April 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
I don't know if a forum is really needed since we already have the discussion/talk pages. But _if_ enough people visit the page it may become useful to have one. The only content i can think that is really needed of are images, but we already had some discussions. I don't think hosting upgrades, patches etc will be a good idea. We can just use all of the existing places (e.g fileuniverse, gamespy and the like) and link to them. Saves hosting space and people already know them. --Hoehrer 05:31, 24 April 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
A Section for the GP2X?
I was wondering if we could make a section of this Wiki for the games and emulators created for the Gamepark Holding's GP2X personal entertainment player.
If you've never heard of the GP2X before, it's something like a PSP/iPod/DS/GameBoy/PDA all rolled into one little unit. It runs Linux as it's OS and has hundreds of homebrew games and applications available for free downloading.
Because it is Linux gaming under the hood, I thought it might be applicable to list it on the Strange Gamer Wiki.
Hmmm... I think the proper answer to this question is that you can make whatever you want, because it's a wiki. Go ahead :) --RJNFC
Programming games category?
I'd like to add a page for Galaxyhack, but there's no Programming/Scripting category. Could someone please add one (presumbably a subset of Simulation)? --Irrevenant 15:41, 2 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
- Actually maybe "Programming/AI Games" would be a better name - then it could also include Mindrover. --Irrevenant 16:13, 2 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
You can create the categories yourself if you like. However, you should feel free to create the game page regardless. Rest assured Hoehrer will make sure that it gets put in the categories properly. He is all about categories :) --RJNFC
Yeah, i'm a category-whore ;) ... Anyway, I personally would vote for either "Programming Games" or "Simulations -> Programming Games" (I prefer the former). That's the most general description and would include AI games as well. We can cover all this in the category-description if needed. --Hoehrer 02:32, 3 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
- Unfortunately "Programming games" excludes Mindrover which is an AI game but isn't a programming game (it can be if you dig deep enough into its innards, but isn't for the average user). --Irrevenant 05:03, 3 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Ok, in that case a Programming and AI games (similar to your suggestion above) makes more sense. Just use it as a category in the page. We'll integrate it with the others afterwards. --Hoehrer 07:09, 3 May 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Ryan Gordon on Floss weekly
hey all! i just finished to Floss Weekly 8 and it had a interview with Ryan from http://icculus.org its just amazing.. i recomend if any one is interested in linux programming check out This Podcast --RancidLM 09:53, 25 June 2006 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Third party images
i will be re-enabling this in a few days just testing out some stuff first. sorry for the inconvenience!
Third party images fixed!
Your new captcha added has a serious potential flaw that could be easily exploited to bypass it.
I viewed the HTML of a page having the new captcha system, and the number is enclosed in a HTML tag! Not good because then spambots COULD find the number, evaluate it, plug it in, and the days of no spam would be over!
Please fix it!!!!!